I initially wanted to answer all your questions in one article. However, I received so many questions worthy of a detailed response that it appears I will need to split the Q&A up into 2, 3 perhaps even 4 parts in order to do your questions the justice they deserve. If you don’t see your question answered, it will likely, (assuming it made the cut) follow in one of the subsequent parts.
If you haven’t read them already, utilising psychopathy and utilising machiavellianism are required reading before you begin reading through this piece, so if you haven’t read those articles, go and read them. Both articles outline fundamental background knowledge on the nature of the dark triad archetype. Without the background knowledge one would acquire from a reading of these predecessor articles, a full capacity to appreciate the questions asked and answers given in this one cannot be assured. That aside, let us begin.
“Are there any videos (movies, documentaries or anything of the sort) that you would recommend to give a more clear-cut example of Dark Triad behaviour?”
To my knowledge, few good documentaries exist on “dark triad behaviour.” I saw an English-made documentary called “Psychopath Night” which was, somewhat enjoyable, but unfortunately tamed in its tone by a rather poor choice to do a “movie countdown” of their favourite blockbuster psychopaths. This superfluous addition to the documentary gave it a less serious feel and more of a “cheap entertainment” feel. Interestingly in spite of that there is some input from Professor Kevin Dutton of Oxford University, author of “Wisdom of the Psychopaths.” I haven’t read his book so unfortunately I cannot give my opinion on it quite yet, but if I do get my hands on it, be assured I’ll do a book review or something similar.
As for media examples, there are countless, and I’m not a media junkie so there will be plenty of examples I have missed (and feel free to give your own in the comments), but off the top off my head, Leonardo Di Caprio’s character “Jordan Belfort” in “The Wolf of Wall Street“, “Marlo” from “The Wire,” and “Omar” from “The Wire” are good examples. In general, “The Wire” is an exceedingly good television series to watch if you want to be exposed to a plethora of dark triad characters. It even has a dark triad woman in it called Snoop, but as she’s a butch lesbian in the real world she has a masculine demeanour and isn’t a very good example of the typical dark triad woman. The typical dark triad woman is more akin to what I outlined in Lucifer’s Daughter. Snoop, simply put, is a certain flavour of dark triad woman. A dark triad woman with a masculine gender identity. In “The Originals” the character “Klaus Mikaelson” is a full-blown psychopath of incredible charisma. By what would appear to someone who is unacquainted with the dark triad to be some kind of “ironic perversion,” the comments section in the video linked for Klaus is full of women uncontrollably swooning over his psychopathy. Click on “Klaus Mikaelson” above and scroll down to the comments, some are quite eye-opening. Specifically those about “how sexy his threats are.” Finally, who of course could forget Hannibal Lecter in “Silence of the Lambs,” the archetypal stereotypically cliché cold psychopath. Dark triad characters comes in many brands and colours. Whether they are criminal, corporate, violent, cold or charismatic, they are usually very intelligent people, and the media is rife with different variations upon the same theme to accommodate this.
“Have you considered the macro societal result for when becoming a dark triad psychopath becomes the norm for getting pussy? Are you a traditionalist after meditating on the matters?”
The “macro societal result” has been in play for a very long time, gaining momentum since the institutionalisation of feminism. Perhaps not under the umbrella of men “embracing and internalising the dark triad” but in the semantic context of “men trying to be crueller, and more assholish” as a response to “independent women.”
Why do men have this desire to become bigger and bigger assholes, perhaps even psychopathic one might ask? Why do people come to Illimitable Men predominantly to read about the dark triad? It is my contention that the desire behind this motive is a matter of ensuring sexual prosperity via deviancy. Men want to “become assholes” in order to seem more attractive to women, as well as protect themselves from predatory women who may have exploited them in the past. Men have, as a collective consciousness, been making a shift towards crueller, less empathetic behaviour due to the social conditioning that women effectively perpetuate for quite some time. Simply put, men are predominantly influenced by their libido, and will go to extreme lengths to ensure they ascertain regular sexual access. Effectively, embracing the dark triad seems like the answer to many a man’s problems. Sex being the primary, although not sole motive for such a decision-making process.
It is due to women punishing “good” men and rewarding “evil” men that “good” men want to become “evil.” When there is a disincentive to be moral, people will be immoral, and men are no exception. This of course is neither desirable nor sustainable from a macro-societal perspective. Society and civilization by extension are built on the backs of hard-working, noble, honourable men who show selflessness and respect to men and women alike. The type of man most would characterise as “good.” Unfortunately in the age of feminism where women have de facto social power, and a man of a gentler disposition has no social or legal backing to aid him in suppressing the disloyal hypergamous promiscuity of female sexuality, the traditional man is going extinct in favour of the modern, calculating playboy. Women bemoan the fall of chivalry with their words, whilst behaviourally rewarding those (sexually) who do not adhere to it by the truck ton. To men, what women say is irrelevant, but how quickly, enthusiastically and often a woman will open her legs (for him) isn’t. For the aspiring playboy or bachelor, woman’s words are worth little, but their actions are everything. What works, works. When you ignore morality for the sake of self-interest, the dark triad is incredibly alluring.
Men of gentle demeanour are punished for their kindness in a way that contorts them intrinsically at the most basic of levels. It’s the common woman’s inability to differentiate kindness from weakness which perpetuates man’s move towards a darker disposition. This is what we’re seeing in scientific terms, highly focused sexual selection. As women have a propensity to reward men who demonstrate dark triad traits enthusiastic sexual access, natural selection is pushing men to become more “assholish” or “evil” as a result. Woman’s primitive attraction triggers, free of the sexual controls imposed by traditionalist Christian social norms and values are the major catalyst for the collapse of contemporary western civilization. A significant contributing factor to the collapse being the ensuing destruction of the nuclear family which modern women’s sexual and marital choices result in. I surmise a return to traditionalist practices are what’s best for the health and prosperity of western civilization. Contemporarily for a man however, the traditionalist male social role is incompatible with feminist society and as such, men are better served by the red pill philosophy and by extension of that, embracing the dark triad as a valid sexual strategy.
“Do you believe it is entirely possible to learn being Dark Triad?”
I believe it is possible, although highly unlikely that many men reading this material will “learn to be fully dark triad” unless he is already predisposed to such behaviour. However, with some study, trial, and error, a man can make significant progress, coming to possess 2 out of the 3 dark triad qualities, those being narcissism and machiavellianism. Psychopathy is simply not an obtainable state of being for the average male. Anything short of an extremely traumatic life event (abuse, witnessing heinous acts of brutality after doing a tour in the military, being locked up in a nefarious prison and etc) will for better or worse, not result in the acquisition of psychopathy. “Learnt psychopathy” is a coping mechanism, rather than a genetic accident which befalls those born with such neurology. That being said, the ingestion of high purity cocaine can temporarily induce dark triad traits to a clinical extent within the average male. Cocaine in a way, acts as a chemical facilitator for psychopathy by inducing fearlessness through the removal of anxiety, alongside a simultaneous state of exuberant narcissistic confidence. It is fearlessness and the absence of empathy (sympathy) which best characterises the core of psychopathy. Alcohol, to a markedly lesser extent, serves the same purpose, hence it’s reputation as being a form of “social lubricant.”
“If yes, how would that be done. If no, how would you at least come closer?”
Anything short of what I described in my answer to the previous question, with mere cocaine consumption being the least fucked up life changing event listed, will not result in the acquisition of psychopathy. Even then, cocaine works temporarily by inebriating you, it doesn’t rewire your brain permanently to make you psychopathic. So how does one become closer? I mention the practice of stoicism alongside a cultivation of the ability to cold-read in “utilising psychopathy.” That aside narcissism and machiavellianism are fully obtainable traits of the triad as they are considered “socialised maladaptive traits.” Machiavellianism is the strategic and manipulative nature of the dark triad male, the “moves” and tactics he utilises in his social strategy to ensure dominance and success. Likewise, machiavellianism is used by average people to a more diminished capacity than is prevalent in the dark triad individual. The most contemporarily relevant, astute and well-compiled book on the subject matter is undoubtedly, The 48 Laws of Power. The book is without a shadow of a doubt, the most necessary read for the budding Machiavellian and is well-deserving of its best-seller status. Learn the strategies from within the 48 Laws of Power and toy with their execution in your life to develop a grasp for how to vocationally utilise the strategies taught in the book. Getting the theory down and understanding it in your head is primary, but becomes fundamentally useless if you lack the ability to execute. Knowing what skills are required and how to execute the strategies listed in the book is what will allow you to see immediate gains within your life.
Machiavellianism is not just an academic field of study, but likewise, a vocational art. To the budding machiavellian, the theory comes before the vocation. To the natural, the theory confirms and augments the vocation. Mastering or at least refining your execution will allow you to acquire a more intimate and refined understanding of machiavellianism by giving you a frame of reference to relate to the strategies within the book. Like anything, theory and learning are only half the equation, they must be tried and tested by action and experience. There is only so much theory and “how to” you can read on here. You must go out into the world and practice the methods for yourself. Understanding something and being able to do something are two very different things. The manosphere and I cannot do that for you. Supplementarily, but with less importance than the The 48 Laws of Power, The 33 Strategies of War, also by author Robert Greene, is a necessary read.
Narcissism manifests in different ways despite how it is cultivated (as a maladaptive social trait caused by parental neglect), the effect of becoming drunk on power/success, the effect of being told all your life that you are great in some capacity and believing it, or merely the will to repeatedly tell yourself that you are somehow special or superior to others. Narcissism, really, is a cycle. It begins as one huge bluff, that overtime, becomes so externally validated that it is actually “believed into existence.” What began as a lie in the form of a bluff takes on a life of its own, believed in and likewise validated by the minds of others. You could for example argue religion is not real, but to those who devoutly believe in it, it is very real. To an extent, whatever is believed in, regardless of its actual legitimacy, becomes real by having life breathed into it. Belief can disregard rationality and legitimacy to make the unreal, real. This is why “fake it ’till you make it” works. If you believe long enough that you are something you are not and communicate this falsehood to others, they too will begin to believe you are something you are not. Then, validated by other’s opinions you begin to further believe you are the identity formed from a set of expectations that other’s hold for you. In turn you live out a self-fulfilling prophecy because external sources reinforce an idea of “you” that is pleasurable for you to adhere to. EG: you’re not “a player” but you convince women you’re “a player” and subsequently they keep calling you “a player” as a result. Eventually you believe you are a player due to the repetitive inculcation of their opinions, causing you to identify internally as “a player.” As a result you take on the characteristics of “a player”, actually becoming “a player” and thus the self-fulfilling prophecy is complete.
If you wish to become narcissistic, delude yourself into high self-appraisal and/or get good at something and harvest all the compliments and dick sucking that comes your way whilst ignoring all the negative feedback you get. Repeat things that aren’t true about yourself to others until they hold specific beliefs about you and then you can use those people as external validators who will regurgitate your idealised self-belief back at you. Cut people out of your life who make you feel shitty whilst introducing and keeping people around who make you feel good about yourself.
The final point on narcissism is the importance of time. Busy people are more narcissistic than those who aren’t busy. Busy people feel more important and thus by extension value any spare time they have more than those who perceive themselves to have an abundance of time. Busy people see you as taking the little bit of time they have left for themselves and so place a higher value on their time. Bored people see you as doing them a favour by filling in their personal void and thus welcome the consumption of their time. Formulaically speaking, an abundance of time equals a scarcity of narcissism whilst a scarcity of time equals an abundance of narcissism. Time available and sense of self-importance are directly proportional independent of belief systems. Basically the budding narcissist tries to keep busy, creating scarcity socially by limiting their availability whilst collecting people to feed the ego. This feeds the “narcissistic supply” and subsequently the cycle is maintained by carefully managing social networks. The narcissist cannot allow himself to be too open-minded to views which will harm his self-perception, and so in the management of his social networks he avoids jobs, behaviours and people who will cause him to, in his own eyes, demean himself. This is verbalised as a refusal to do things or associate with those who he recognises as “beneath him” (a threat to his ego.)
Concluding Part 1 – Closing Thoughts:
I have purposely skimmed over the topic of narcissism and not gone into too much depth on my explanation of it as I am saving the bulk of my thoughts on narcissism for the yet to be released “utilising narcissism” article. As you can surely understand, I don’t want to reveal too much about my thoughts on narcissism ahead of writing a dedicated piece on the topic. Don’t get too caught up on that, as part 2 of this Q&A is up next.