“The feminist movement taught women to see themselves as victims of an oppressive patriarchy….Self-imposed victimhood is not a recipe for happiness.” – Phyllis Schlafly
2.) Gender Equality is a Myth
2a.) Women’s Advice Damages Men
2b.) Women’s Need for Male Superiority
2c.) Infantile Narcissism as the Basis for Feminism
2d.) Equality, Superiority, Feminism – A Summary
2e.) The Masculine Burden of Performance
3.) Feminism is a Siege on Masculinity
4.) Women Are the Second Sex Because They’re Needier
5.) In Closing
6.) Relevant Reading
Recently I received a message from a feminist asking me some basic questions about the red pill. I figured the amount of explaining required to articulate a quality response would necessitate the writing of an essay. Here’s the thing though, I don’t write individualised essays; it’s a poor allocation of a finite and unearnable resource: one’s time.
Not only that, but I believe it would be a shame if only one fellow got to enjoy such a rich and detailed response. As such, if I find myself penning a lengthy response to someone, there’s a good chance I’ll just make it into an article. After all, if one person is asking these questions, others probably share similar curiosities.
Anybody curious about the red pill, or struggling to grasp it due to an inability to reconcile it with feminist or egalitarian beliefs should start here; this one’s for you. I should warn you, this is one of my more lengthier posts, so you may want to go and grab a cup of coffee before you get right into the thick of things.
2.) Gender Equality is a Myth:
Question: “To you, what is the central tenet of the red pill position?”
The core of the philosophy is built on the idea that gender equality is a myth. Men are required by women to be superior in order to be attractive, women don’t find equality sexy, even if they claim the contrary.
Women don’t make it easy for men, most are not fully cognisant of what they want and will not tell lost boys how to be men, even if they themselves have some sort of idea of what “being a man” entails. Let’s assume a magical woman exists who knows everything about being a man and is fit to educate men in the ways of manhood (humour me); the act of this woman teaching the clueless man how to be masculine would be the very thing that makes him undesirable, assuming there was some kind of physical attraction to begin with.
A man can be attracted to a woman whose femininity he is cultivating, but the reverse is not so. A woman doesn’t want to cultivate a man’s masculinity, she wants to find a man who’s already generously endowed with it. Sure, women will try to rehabilitate bad boys due to their primal attraction to psychopathy, but a “bad boy” has masculinity even if it’s of the negative type; domesticating the desirable and building up the undesirable are entirely disparate phenomena. Women will more than gladly engage in the former, but scarcely if ever the latter.
2a.) Women’s Advice Damages Men:
Women’s advice to men is not fit for purpose, even when they mean well, their inextricable solipsism leaves them unable to give actionable advice that will yield lasting and tangible benefit. A woman’s solipsism dictates her inability to understand how she becomes attracted, to her, attraction is “mysteriously magical”, and as such, a form of incomprehensible magnetism that a man either has or hasn’t.
One of the reasons many women have a simultaneous disgust and intrigue for the red pill, is because among other reasons, it teaches unattractive men how to be attractive. And the mere idea that attraction is teachable implies it is mundane and mechanical, rather than mysterious and magical as a woman’s fantasy prone emotions would drive her to believe.
Rather than tell clueless men they need to be dominant, put her in place and act like more of a jerk, women will oft opt for the non-confrontational bullshit approach: “be kind and understanding, listen to her problems, and she’ll realise what a great guy you are!” In fact rather than help a man, a woman will often use misinformation as a filtering mechanism to benefit her own sexual strategy.
Women will tell men to be kind, sweet, supplicating and deferential, and if he’s idiotic enough to take the advice, she’ll reject him precisely because he did what she said. Many men have had their hearts crushed in youth because they were clueless, listened to the thoroughly unhelpful girl interpretation of what constitutes an attractive male, and ended up with nothing but rejection dressed in the clothing of compliments.
“You’re so nice, you’re like a brother to me – I don’t want to ruin that!”
As well as condescending platitudes such as
“You’re a real catch, I know there’s a really great woman out there for you, you’ll find her some day I just know it!”
Completely disregarding the fact that, this man doesn’t want “the great women out there”, but in fact desires the woman telling him to fuckoff romantically in the kindest yet least helpful way possible.
Whoever thought such flattering words could harbour such condemning frustration? Who among man knew rejection could sound so god damn complimenting? These are the very phrases a man never wishes to hear from a woman, rejection is something men can process and learn from, but rejection disguised as encouragement simply fucks up a young and impressionable man’s mind.
A lot of red pill men were raised by feminist women, followed feminist advice, and found nothing but misery. As soon as they discarded the notion of gender equality as an operative social model, focused on themselves and became more behaviourally dominant, their relationships with women both sexually and platonically begun improving dramatically.
2b.) Women’s Need for Male Superiority:
The feminine need for men to be better than them is the reason nice guys finish last and “those jerks” get all the women, nice guys behave in a manner which communicates submission and inferiority, whilst jerks behave in a manner that communicates dominance and superiority. Social dominance is important to women, in fact it is probably the most significant attraction cue in a woman’s determination of whether a man is desirable or not, although thanks to feminism, you’ll scarcely hear a woman (or even man) tell you that in this day and age.
Women are attracted to men they perceive to be superior, equals and inferiors are invisible to women. The equals and inferiors are “the creeps” if they’re ugly, and brother zoned as a marriage backup for when she hits 29 if they’re attractive. The red pill refers to the female desire for male superiority as hypergamy, hypergamy is the fulcrum on which female attraction operates: is the man more dominant than her? If yes, he’s attractive, if not, he isn’t.
This handy flow chart pretty much summarises female attraction in a nutshell:
2c.) Infantile Narcissism as the Basis for Feminism:
The reason women oft say “I believe men and women should be equal” and actually believe their own nonsense is because of the fragile feminine ego. Many women are uncomfortable with the idea that they are the second sex. The childish insecurity quintessential of the feminine is exploited by feminism, encouraging women to compete with rather than complement the masculine.
The fruits of this very successful, yet deleterious propaganda has created successive generations of women who are not entirely cognisant of, and undervalue the importance inherent to their “inferior position” – the species dependence on their nurturing of the young. This is a woman’s calling as much as a man’s is to protect and provide, and yet feminists, like spoiled children who think they deserve better, reject their biological destiny in a quest to feel like they’re the primary sex.
Men are the primary sex because they build civilization, women are the second sex because they have added and continue to add very little to civilization. But still, even in the secondary position, there is a great deal of importance in women’s role. Nurturing the species is no small feat, and women being taught to disdain rather than embrace this role are doing not just themselves, but the species an indomitable disservice.
Only the most lesbianic feminist could see motherhood, domestic life and complementary subservience to a benevolent patriarch as “oppressive”. Quite the contrary, permitting women to deploy their sexual strategies so that they may reproduce in security is anything but oppressive.
2d.) Equality, Superiority, Feminism – A Summary:
When a woman says “men and women are equal” it’s only ever in regard to something in which men are objectively superior, never in an aspect in which women are regarded superior. Wherever a woman is regarded as inferior, culture will be blamed rather than biology. For example, women are inferior to men at mathematics – feminism will blame “lad culture” and the prevalence of “old white men in the sciences” rather than admit women have less logical and systematising brains than men.
Women have inferior musculature to men (less muscle mass) and again, the feminist approach will always idiotically take a 100% nurture position, attributing blame entirely to socialisation. Feminists ignore the differences in the male and female brain in matters of mathematical and scientific ability, and likewise do the same in athletic matters, ignoring the anabolic nature of testosterone, a hormone men have ten times more of than women.
Now if you asked a woman who believes in gender equality which sex is better with children, almost all will say “women are better”. So when women are actually inferior, you get this equality nonsense (because feminine infantile narcissism feels unimportant when admitting inferiority), but where women excel, you get female superiority (feminine infantile narcissism likes feeling important). Essentially, feminists reframe male supremacy as equality, whilst allowing and even encouraging female supremacy to flourish under the same guise.
This is why anybody worth their salt quite rightly identifies contemporary third wave feminism as a misguided female supremacy movement, rather than one of egalitarianism. But, just for the record and to clarify the point here, even if third wave feminism were egalitarianism like first wave feminism was, red pill philosophy would still disagree with it. The red pill believes in traditional gender roles, of which egalitarianism infringes upon.
Women need men to be superior to them to be attracted to them, but out of ego do not wish to admit inferiority. This is why you have this strange compartmentalisation where women only pursue men of superior genes, wealth and status to them, but then claim equality in all aspects in which they are inferior. If women truly believed in gender equality as an absolute, they would be attracted to men who are objectively inferior to them. As they don’t, we can deduce that women (even feminists) don’t really believe in gender equality, but merely use it as a tool of no real defined shape, which in all its fluidity, is utilised for no purpose other than to provide women with short-term benefit.
2e.) The Masculine Burden of Performance:
Of course the necessitation of male superiority in order to elicit female attraction has far wider implications than simply displeasing the feminine ego. It means men have a far greater burden of performance, that men are innately insufficient, and that it is their contemporary capacity to perform which determines their sufficiency. This is why you will hear “he’s not a real man” but never “she’s not a real woman”; manhood is precarious, earned each day, womanhood is a certainty, conferred by menstruation.
Women do not have the burden of performance that men do, women are valuable by merit of their existence, whereas men are valuable only when they can perform or produce, eg: amass wealth or behave dominantly. As soon as a man can no longer do these things (particularly the latter), he is no longer considered a man.
This is why many men who lost their jobs in the 2008 economic depression found their wives divorcing them, some killing themselves after the fact as a gentle nod to Darwin; whilst their unremarkable middle of the bell curve ex-wives survived by simply remarrying. Because men must invest more, men find it harder to move on, because women are provided for and invested into, they don’t. A woman will almost always take the one thing she invests most into with her, the children; a man loses everything he invested into.
This is the masculine burden of performance, and it is this constant unending need for men to perform which makes masculinity precarious. Just because a man is considered a man today, it does not mean he will be tomorrow. A man who stops behaving dominantly is not considered a “real man” by either his fellow men or women; manhood is contingent on ability, whereas womanhood is contingent on fertility and motherhood.
A woman can behave however she likes, earn as much or as little as she likes, and she will not lose her gender identity to her inability to perform, women have freedom that men do not, the freedom to fail. So yes, women may be the second sex, but that position of diminished responsibility confers a privilege men will never know. Of course, a childish narcissist could never know that.
3.) Feminism is a Siege on Masculinity:
Question: “Are men, contrary to popular opinion, worse off in today’s society than women?”
I think feminism made the entire institution of family (and thus boys as well as girls) worse off than they were pre-feminism. However, I think boys are affected far more markedly than girls are by father absence, because boys need their fathers around in order to emulate them and actualise their masculinity. Deprive a boy his paternal connection, and you do catastrophic damage to his psyche.
Boys and men need sufficient exposure to the masculine existential viewpoint, but the contemporary feminist dominated society we have in the west does its best to prevent men from accessing their own genders viewpoint; how it accomplishes this is by constantly injecting the feminine viewpoint into everything as to silence the male voice. And this “feminine viewpoint” feminism espouses isn’t even a healthy form of femininity, it’s a toxic, lesbianic man hating one. It teaches girls combativeness, and boys self-flagellation (the very thing they eschew for women).
This is harmful to both sexes, for it encourages androgyny and confusion, it induces femininity wherever masculinity is needed, and masculinity wherever femininity is needed. Feminism is about the destruction of gender identities. Rather than accepting the biological elements of binary masculinity and femininity, it reduces them to mere social constructs, and then does irreparable psychological harm by confusing men and women alike.
Although feminism misleads both sexes, it only attacks and vilifies one of them, men. Although feminism misleads both sexes, it only deprives one of them their same-sex parent, boys. So while I wouldn’t perhaps characterise the plight of the modern man as “being worse off in relation to women”, I would say the modern man has far less support than the modern woman does. I’d then use this argument to further contend that the reason the red pill is as popular as it is, is precisely because there are no alternatives.
Feminism declares war upon the hairy, sweating and arched back which holds up humanity, declares it evil, and self-righteously prods it until it falls, leaving nothing but chaos in its wake. Feminism is toxic gynocentrism which reframes the male existential viewpoint as the point of all evil, so it cares not for men, nor masculinity, feminism has very little interest in the masculine outside of exploiting and undermining it, for masculinity is the feminist enemy on which war has been declared.
4.) Women Are the Second Sex Because They’re Needier:
Question: “Do you consider yourself sexist or think of yourself as hating women?”
Yes to sexist (because I recognise the differences between men and women) but no to hating them as a result of that. I don’t respect women simply for being women, they have to earn my respect with good character. Cultivating a pleasing appearance earns lust, not respect. Most women don’t realise this, because beauty is power and feminism encourages narcissism, modern women believe they’re entitled to respect merely by merit of being female, doubly so if they’re attractive – this is not so.
Feminism teaches that women are entitled to respect regardless of character, this leads to a lot of reprehensible women believing they are intrinsically entitled to something they haven’t earned. Again, this can be explained by childish narcissism.
Imagine a movement which defined parents as oppressive of their children, and that children deserve the right to make their own decisions without their parents denying them “independence” and “autonomy”. Sounds crazy, right? Well this is how I see feminism.
Women need men a lot more than vice versa, it is in women’s interest to have a man take care of them. If women could take care of themselves, they wouldn’t rely on the federal threat of force to redistribute the tax dollars of productive working age men to unemployed single mothers, furthermore they wouldn’t need an ideology to legally enforce such a process.
If women were equal or even superior to men, they wouldn’t need an ideology to state the obvious, everybody would intuit that women were superior and would therefore not need institutional inculcation to ingrain the notion. The reason we keep hearing men and women are equal is precisely because they’re not; it is customary of infantile narcissism to cope with a reality it doesn’t like by profusely denying it, denying it to the point that the lie becomes the new reality – that women are in fact equal to men.
In fact, much of modern women’s strides in the economy come from the death of femininity, supplanted by women’s adoption of masculine behaviours. Truth be told, even when women emulate male dominance as commanded by their feminist overlords, they’re still unable to compete with men economically without a political lobby artificially holding them up. And they’re not meant to compete with men, they’re meant to complement them – that’s the entire point, feminism is unnecessarily segregational.
Free markets are meritocratic, there is no affirmative action or benevolent sexism. Even if we disregard economic concerns and focus purely on the psychological, few women are truly happy if single. The vast majority of women need to be in a relationship with a man they respect to feel satisfied and successful. Likewise, most women do not want a relationship with a man that makes significantly less than them, so they’re not going to have a lot of desire for a man who does.
However you cut it, whichever angle you wish to poke and prod, however you wish to analyse the relationship between men and women by desperately trying to force the feminist puzzle piece to fit, women are the indisputable second sex. And when they’re artificially put into a position of power, dominance and leadership, rarely is such a woman content.
A resounding difference between men and women is that, although humans in general are power-hungry, only men fully enjoy the fruits of power. Men cope with power better, and are happier for having it. Give a woman the highest position available, and you create a miserable woman, a woman who has shrunk her dating pool of eligible bachelors to almost zero, who grows disdain daily for the burdens that encumber her. Women are happier when they’re following because it’s less stressful and there’s less accountability involved. Feminism makes them think they need to beat men at everything to be successful women, when the reality couldn’t be further from the truth.
Men have never, and will never need women to take care of them, the reverse is untrue. Men took care of women for tens of thousands of years, this is the unwritten social contract, men provide and protect, women nurture – this is a natural balance that works just fine.
Then a political movement comes along and says “hey, you know those guys paying the bills, putting the food on the table and going to war to protect you from men who would rape you? Yeah those men are evil, they’re oppressing you.” – it is diabolical to me that given the opportunity to free themselves of any responsibility, even the pitiful responsibility of running a house, women threw the baby out with the bathwater. They exchanged service to men personally invested in them for service to men with no personal investment in them (corporations and big government).
Why the hell would you want to go and work the arduous jobs men work when you can stay at home, raise your children you adore, and not have to worry about deadlines and work politics? Feminism lies, it acts as if women were strictly prohibited from working before its inception with dramatic imagery of women locked up in kitchens. Women had jobs before feminism, it just wasn’t common because most had the luxury of not needing to work. Modern women don’t have that luxury, all thanks to feminism.
Work is not a privilege, it’s a responsibility, and so it humours me that women were duped into perceiving additional responsibility as additional privilege, simply because it was wrapped up in a banner of independence which played into their narcissistic status anxiety.
5.) In Closing:
As an addendum and before I forget,
if you’re a young man looking for some mentoring, /u/tizenkotoko (the gentleman who made that pretty flow chart for me) is a father looking to take a young red piller under his wing. Get in touch with him if this sounds like something you’d be interested in, and before you ask, no, sorry, I’m not open to mentoring at this time.
Any questions or insights? Leave a comment.
UPDATE: Tizen is no longer available for mentoring.
6.) Relevant Reading:
The Empress Is Naked
The Manipulated Man
The Rational Male
The Rational Male: Preventive Medicine
The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men
The Way of Men
66 thoughts on “Instruction For A Polite Feminist”
Wonderful, good-sir how much time do you put into your post?
This one, about 8 hours. But it varies. Editing is lengthier than writing.
Good-sir this may be of interest
As enjoyment and growth when time permits an editing and human behavior.
There is no god writing… only good rewriting.
Man, great article. Also, when would you be open to mentoring? if you have a timeline in mind that is
I have no plans to offer it, but let’s not say never.
This is absolutely fantastic man.
Something I’d personally add on to ‘The Burden of Performance’, and I’m sure many would agree with me: women will do almost anything to sabotage a man of high performance. Effectively, they test you for the entire duration of your relationship.
Think about every relationship you’ve ever had past the ~3 month stage. At the point where she is sleeping over and actually sticking around the next day. For most men this point is probably an exclusive relationship but mileage may vary.
Remembering that this woman is attracted to you from various measures: your health, your wealth, and your overall drive motivation, etc.
Does said woman continue you to support you in these goals? Does she encourage you to wake up at 6am on a Saturday to hit the gym, and then spend your day developing your new business or getting ahead in other ways of life?
Instead, girls flat-out self sabotage the very thing they’re attracted to by trying to keep you in bed with them all day, sleeping in and just being a lazy slob in general. They will literally hold you back in moving forward because women have no sense of needing to move forward, EVER. Even the ones that are in shitty positions in life (no career, no skills, no goals) have this self entitlement complex that a man is going to save them – SOMEDAY. It’s why they sit around in the mornings and eat pancakes rather than get up and be productive.
Of course the irony shouldn’t be lost that the females that awake early on a Saturday morning…usually are nurturing mothers.
So now only must men deal with the burden of performance itself, but we must actively fight off women who want to drag us to levels of mediocrity with themselves.
Keep it up.
Bang on comment. If you permit her, a woman will make you mediocre. She will then leave you for being mediocre because “you’re not the man she fell in love with” and “she deserves better than that.”
A man must never sacrifice his mission for a woman, perhaps that topic warrants its own post.
“A man must never sacrifice his mission for a woman” — that topic indeed deserves its own post.
The Onion once ran a brilliant satirical article about a woman who successfully changes her boyfriend into the kind of man she is no longer attracted to:
I believe that there is deeper issue at work here beside just female entropy. A woman fears that if her man remains attractive to other women, she could lose him to a rival. So she works to take away those traits that could attract other women. In the process, she ends up losing attraction for the man herself.
Rollo Tomassi has written a bit about this dynamic. I would love to hear your perspective.
A plus. A writer who makes me proud to visit the manosphere. But you are the only guy I actually subscribe to emails from.
Mr IM hits a homerun out of the ballpark again! Especially with this article.
I’ve been part of the red pill community for two years and only have younger friends who are red pill. I am 29 and looking for guidance from an older male.
tizenkotoko, could we connect over email to see if mentorship would be a good fit?
You’ll have to ask him that, he didn’t specify.
I don’t understand why the red pill focuses so much on women and blaming women for the supposed rapid downfall of society when we are more advanced than ever before… So my question is, what is the point of picking on women? It sounds to me like some men need a scapegoat for the sorry, pitiful lives they lead. If the red pill were truly about self improvement, the blame wouldn’t be placed on women (ps you generalize like CRAZY saying AWALT. Evolutionary psychology is a pseudoscience, there is no data for this. You’re wasting your life on something that is merely speculation, at best. Sure some women suck, but a lot of men suck too.)
You say that society was better pre-feminism… Tell that to both my grandmothers who both suffered decades of domestic abuse and were financially dependent on their husbands because they had little education and could not support their children without their husbands. Sure, third wave feminism crosses the line, but to say that the feminist movement has ruined society is nonsensical. It absolutely makes no sense. I’m sure you would like to go back to the Victorian Era, seeing as you seem like you want to control women and have them do your bidding, but get with the times dude. It’s 2016.
You can thank men for pretty much every technological breakthrough, even today, especially today. Men did it without women, so don’t try and claim otherwise.
AWALT is simply the realization that all women have the potential to optimize hypergamy. Key word is potential. Not that all women will, it’s that each women has the potential to seek Alpha traits over Beta traits or that she will branch swing, etc. This is a collective confirmation from men of all backgrounds, statuses, incomes, and experiences. You can chalk it up to men for being “pitiful” but the Red Pill works, there are hundreds of thousands of men (and growing rapidly) confirming it works.
The reason you’re upset is that it’s a threat to you optimizing your own hypergamy. If enough men realize that women fuck alphas while in their early twenties, then turn around and change strategies to a Beta provider around 30, eventually enough men will realize their getting the rough end of the deal. This is a threat to your optimization. It’s taking away your sexual strategy. It will take a generation, but supporting feminists, which ultimately want to optimize hypergamy, hurts women. Plain and simple. It’s going to take a generation of women that can no longer find suitable men, men that are aware of women’s feral nature, to eventually warn other women to limit their hypergamy or they will end up alone in a apartment full of cats.
Feminism hurts women. The correction is coming.
Did you even read the essay? Your entire dismissal of it is based on a personal anecdote and saying, “It’s 2016”.
At the end of the day if I were were to posit Chelsea Handler to your poster child feminist would you disagree… After reading the slight nuances of feminiism and womanism. Crap like intersectional feminsim yadda yadda. He makes valids point that refute groupthink and challenge it.
At the end of the day words like this are meant to inspire and to brood on. Go somewhere else if you cannot vibe with what you have read.. There is someone out there that you can enjoy reading… I just know it.
“Why the hell would you want to go and work the arduous jobs men do when you can stay at home, raise the children that you adore, and not have to worry about deadlines and work politics”?
Hypergamy pure and simple, so she can avoid fucking a guy she isn’t viscerally attracted to just because she needs his support. She would prefer to work a shitty job and sport fuck Alpha cock while hoping one of these will commit than play wife to some beta who doesn’t give her tingles.
All women believe they deserve tier 1 men, but there ain’t enough to go round, so she prefers to work the shitty job and play the field in hope of a lottery win rather than settle for less than she “deserves”.
Feminism is ALL about optimising Hypergamy.
“Feminism is ALL about optimising Hypergamy.”
I’m curious – what are the conditions of the mentorship u/tizenkotoko is offering? How young ought one be, are there physical location limitations, how much development is he looking to assist with? Is this like, “Help, I’m new to Red Pill thinking and want to stop being such a beta,” or more “I’ve done my homework and tried some stuff, but I could use an experienced eye to help me along faster?”
I stumbled upon the red pill about three years ago. It became instrumental during the turning point of my life, after been a punk for over 15 years.
Being an intellectual myself, your blog is by far the most engaging, of the tens of other red pill domains I’ve sampled. I read your entire archives in a matter of days.
The most resounding lesson I’ve learned from a hundred posts is the decision to make oneself the point of origin and foundation of every thought, emotion, decision, opinion and action, especially when dealing with the current feminine dominated social construct. The essence of living one’s life as one sees fit, in spite of criticism, discouragement, and attempts at manipulation, both subtle and overt, from family, friends, colleagues and rivals cannot be overemphasized. It is particularly necessary for ‘lost boys’ such as I was to quit searching for attention and gleaning approval from all others, not just women, and begin to gain some semblance of control in life: by accepting their current desolate mental and emotional state, and finding the nerve and discipline to do something about it.
I write about other subjects in computer science and engineering, but your blog, Sir, just inspires me to expand my authorship.
As long as you write, I’ll read.
Yes, and boy oh boy do your own ‘people’ try their best to deprogram you. They look at you like a dog looks at a man whistling and playing an accordion.
One thing it does is test your boundaries and make you fast on your feet when being quizzed by people in your sphere or relevance.
Not to mention that me having gone MGTOW also makes people scratch their head.
I’ve never been an AFC, have have mostly pleasant experiences with women (although the ones that were bad, were egregiously bad), and have no shortage of options to get laid or have female company, but still, I just don’t have time for the shit…especially from the wives of most of my buddies. When there are events where there is a possibility of mixed company, I weigh carefully and usually take a pass. One lapse in judgment I did make recently is saying openly that I’d rather been with the bros, and could take or leave the wives. A couple of them, I could tell, were offended.
Oh..back to my point. So my standard response to those who bristle at my RP point of view and life choices is that
TRP makes you see so damn clearly how men pedestalize and supplicate to women. I know we use throw those word around (pedestalize and supplicate) to the point of them being trite, but I’ll be damned if those words aren’t the most cogent and accurate way of describing the phenomenon. I was sharing, at a card party, casually, the book I read by Warren Farrell “The Myth of Male Power”, and how men are disposable…and so I read from this page, which I had bookmarked a bit of the content there, and I gotta tell you, these guys were really getting pissed at me.
And so I told them to their faces:
Men who have sons and who are unaware of TRP…are setting them up for failure.
“I’m a sovereign man, I do what I want, when I want, and however I want, and I don’t care what anyone thinks (unless they support my autonomy and encourage my mission), nor do I need the validation or approval of anyone, especially a woman”
SOLID FUCKING GOLD. Excellent response and thank you for sharing. I too have a young son and his “dual” education will begin as soon as he enters the governments school system.
Thanks for this. Your materiel never dissapoints.
The way you explained the leader/follower dynamic is brilliant, and often the hardest thing for feminists to come to turns with, in my experience.
My response has always been “You get the best position of all, the choice to choose your leader. The choice to submit to the male that provides you with enough protection, figuratively.”
“It is your human nature to test and prod and annoy from time to time to make sure your leader is still up for the job. If he softens or looses what you saw in him, you can swing away to another.”
Women have been sold the myth that they should stand side by side with men in the world. They should realize that by embracing their femininity, they have a more advantageous position. For a short time anyway. If they make their moves quickly while their beauty is at its peak, they can position themselves for a life with the most potential.
I have nothing interesting or clever to say. I just want to say that I appreciate your work a lot.
Have you ever read “The manipulated man”? Among other things, it talks about how many women during the early feminist movement were against the whole idea, with the basis “Why would they want to destroy an already excellent system that provided women with so much free time?”
How do you explain my situation? A gentle, thoughtful, kind woman who has had, and is currently enjoying, successful relationships with other women. Many of whom believed themselves to be straight; all of whom say that I gave/am giving them the best sex of their lives. All of whom I know you would deem at least an 8. Your wording, not mine. Desire is much more complicated than you permit; not all women want the same thing. trust me. I love when a muscle-built, `dominant’ man loses out to me when chatting up a woman at the bar. you’re so into yourselves and your own idea of what it means to be a man that you forget how to enjoy other people. Why write so much about your own superiority? Shut up and prove it. If you can’t, get in line and I’ll pass on some of my own tips.
Your situation is impertinent.
Because you’re a lesbian and a feminist and not a man. Lesbians do what lesbians do, and, again, competing with women – over ANYTHING, especially other low quality women (which lesbians are) – are not in the purview of the men on this site.
We are Illimitable Men, not Illimitable Cuckolds and enviers of immoral women and their dalliances.
Ah ha. Thanks for elaborating. Immoral according to what code? And ‘low quality’ according to what value system. You can’t just dismiss somebody else’s experiences because you don’t understand them. That’s where people like you come across as ignorant and aggressive and narrow minded. And believe me, it does affect pre like you – when your wives start leaving you for other women; women who take their desires and experiences into account.
Low-value in terms of societal contributions and relative to what men deem valuable. Lesbians do not produce children without the contribution of men, and therefore do not pass down their genes to anyone, and they comprise a very small percentage of the overall population of women. Men don’t want to sleep with lesbians, therefor they (you) are of “low value”; much as, from a sexual marketplace perspective, I am, as a man, useless to you. You don’t want what I selling. Not meant as an insult, to either of us, just the way it is.
You say that “women don’t just want X”, and give examples of how you’ve swept up a woman that was being hit on by a stereotypical “man’s man” at a bar. This isn’t evidence-based reasoning, and the plural of anecdote is not data. If anything, exceptions prove a rule. If I went to a basketball gym in China and found several men much taller than myself with relative ease, that would hardly disprove the fact that the vast majority of Chinese men are shorter than me. You picking up a woman in a bar (a place you are more likely to meet someone with looser moral boundaries and extensive sexual history than elsewhere, male or female) that thought she was straight and turns out to be bi or lesbian does nothing to disprove that the vast majority of women prefer very specific physical traits and social proofs that trigger their attraction response.
Also, you are not illimitable. You are searching for meaning and a sense of self in a world that is changing in ways that you cannot deal with; you, and views like yours, are rapidly being left behind. You use the internet as a way of venting frustrations at a civilisation that has moved beyond, the very definite LIMITS, of your mentality. I repeat, you are not illimitable. You, like every other person on the planet, will die eventually. Get over your own mediocrity.
Why do you feel the need to come bother us?
Because I recently discovered your website and thought you could all do with some varied opinions. If you really want to cultivate your person, it helps to be exposed to contrasting points of view. And as a woman, I resent being told by men what my desires are. It’s been going on for too many centuries and you have had it wildly wrong for too long. You seem to think you are part of a powerful political movement but all you are doing is defending your own sense of inferiority and confusion.
You’re not representative of who you claim to represent because you’re not heterosexual, you’re not the kind of woman we would be interested in (a man hating, lesbian feminist who goes on men’s blogs and attempts to pathetically exert dominance via the safety of distance and anonymity)
Why don’t you take your own advice? Because you dismiss the essay and the comments by ignoring it and addressing none of it, typical girly behaviour, right up there with liking ponies, barbie and pink.
This is the reality: you’re a close-minded bigot who is upset by what they have read so you feel by asserting your own viewpoint over and over again whilst dismissing the other that “YOU WIN”. This is why I can’t let dumb people like you comment here, you reduce the conversation to one of “who can better assert dominance” rather than an actual open, honest, intellectual conversation, you’re literally the living fucking embodiment of entropy. If you don’t know that word, Google it.
If you want us to listen to you, you have to provide a counter argument, not just spout off completely disparate arguments. This is only something intelligent people do, and unfortunately whatever shitty bachelors degree you have doesn’t qualify you as one of us.
I talk down to you because that’s the only thing that works on dumb people like you. You shit on men who treat you with a modcium of respect (as you did my other readers), because you’re a lesbian who lives by the tenets of a man hating ideology. The only men you can actually respect are the ones who embody everything you hate the most (men like me), and these are the men that have the least interest in a dysfunctional half-wit such as yourself.
Look, I allow comments that don’t comply with my world view because unlike you, I’m a reasonable, rational motherfucker who gives everybody a chance to produce value or fuck up.
I’m all about the battle of ideas as pertaining to classical liberalism, I believe in these ideas enough to let someone who loathes them (such as you) come in here and provide counter points should their argument prove profound or insightful. Because even if we disagreed, you could provide value and teach us something.
But you’re not smart enough for that, you have failed to do this, you’ve provided no solid arguments for anybody’s consideration, you’ve just passively aggressively postured in the comments here. Instead of actually having a proper conversation, you feebly attempt to mind fuck us out of your insecure need to prove your worth as a lesbian by dominating men at every available opportunity. You know what bitch, you should pay me for this comment, I’m psychoanalysing you better than your therapist could dream of.
Look, I know you think you’re a complex person, but you’re not. You’re behaving very predictably, like anybody would expect a lesbian feminist to behave. You’re living up the stereotype. You’re threatened by masculinity so you shit on it, then you project how you feel about traditional masculinity onto the men here “y’all threatened by us wife stealing lesbian feminists, I’ll fuck all ya wives!”
LOOOL.. bitch, we don’t give two shits about you. We ain’t coming over to your hangouts because you’re irrelevant to us, you’re here up in our shit, you’re the loser giving fucks.
Shit all you’ve actually done is confirm this part of the essay by making this whole thing about you:
Sorry sister, but we haven’t got time for your histrionic lesbianic cluster B bullshit here.
Saying that, although inadvertent, you have actually provided us with some value by being the perfect stereotype. You’ve confirmed multiple points of the essay:
We get it, you’re a lesbian, you hate men, this isn’t news to anyone.
Trust me, I’m smarter than you, more cunning than you and stronger than you, and I don’t need you to believe it for that fact to be reality. You need to believe it isn’t true of any man to keep on poaching unhappy women from their cucks. In fact, by even talking to you, you think you’re somehow on my level, because I’m that much greater than you, the mere act of having my attention and typing out all these words causes you to believe we’re somehow equals.
Truth be told if this wasn’t public, I wouldn’t even bother. I just want to humiliate you and make an example of you to my readers because you’re shitting all over my comment box and revenge porn is good PR.
You remind me of this bitch:
Next time you strap a dick on to fuck the leftovers you stole from a cuck, remember you’re physically emulating the very thing you loathe because your anatomy is insufficient. You will never be good enough, because the thing you need to be is the thing you hate. Ironic isn’t it? Hahahaha, the joke’s on you darling. Have a nice day.
I think this is why others often protect women’s honor. They’re too stupid, or cowards, to do it themselves, so they just find a way to brush off these types of insults that leave lasting impressions. The men who defend them are often kind, however, they are even more foolish if they blindly jump at the chance to “rescue” said woman.
Shit, still makes me jealous though. If anyone told me an insult so well thought out, I’d probably laugh and tell him he owes me a drink.
Oh, and, seeing as this blog is about winners, let us release Milly Dick (sister of Moby) back into the ocean where she belongs. She’s spent far too long simply flapping her wings and shooting air out of her blowhole ashore, that she’s forgotten what it’s like to actually enjoy living beneath the land we walk in. Also, let us not forget we relish in the fact that she’s spent more time swimming in our excrement, than she’s spent squealing ashore on her back, I hope she’s received the assistance your reply gave her, and that she was tossed far back into the shithole she came from.
Jesus fucking Christ, I didn’t realize it was possible to shove a nuke that far up a dyke’s ass.
That was quite some character assassination. You didn’t direct this at me, and I’m not even gay enough to feel attacked, but I’m still impersonating a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Fucking WOW! I love you, man!! That crazy bitch ran to the hills.
You thought we “could all do with some varied opinions”? You mean to say the exact same opinions repeated throughout every major media platform in the western world?
You’re a lesbian; your desires are not the “norm”, nor is anyone trying to tell you anything. You, specifically, would be excluded from this discussion as it relates to the heterosexual marketplace, in which you have no place or stake.
But ok. You’re right. It is a massive waste of my time and energy. So goodbye. I hope you, one day, find whatever it is you are all looking for. Illimitable boys.
Ah, the “boys” insult. Standard stuff from a predictable person. I get it on my own blog sometimes, too. That’s just standard a go-to, almost throw-away line used by someone who isn’t getting her way. It’s a school yard insult like “you’re a doo-doo head”.
Do you think that ‘Illimitable boys’ and ‘infantile narcissists’ convey different insults?
Great post. Per 2e, women who have bodies that make other women uncomfortable and ashamed actually are told by feminists that they aren’t real women — “Real women have curves!” Apparently in a ideal feminist society, women have a burden of performance to be somewhat fat.
I think a woman’s burden is “don’t be ugly” and until she gets old, this is easily fulfilled (unless she really got hit with the ugly stick in the womb) – most women are fuckable to most men.
I wouldn’t say women have a burden of performance because they don’t have to constantly lead/satiate hypergamy or look after someone, but they do have a burden of beauty.
What you’re talking about is feminism redefining beauty to fit its perverse neoliberal social justice narrative.
But that isn’t a burden of performance, more so the feminine burden of beauty being reclassified as a way for ugly women to sabotage prettier women. Every pretty young girl that falls for that shit is one less girl in the pool competing for an alpha. When the ugly bitter landwhales can’t compete with a girl, they try and brainwash her into becoming physically and mentally ugly instead.
TLDR: Men must perform, women must look good – men have burden of performance, women have burden of beauty.
This reminds me with the coworker who had a FULL go at me (a lecture) for wearing heels! Another woman (both are bitter feminists) was wondering why do I bother applying makeup.
I always wondered, as my grandmother (I am not from the west) taught me, and my mother confirmed, that a self-respecting female should never leave home without makeup and without being dressed well. Migrating to the west thinking of a better life for my family seems to be not the wisest decision. But I shall hold on to my culture and my traditions even if I am to be ridiculed everyday.
That’s why I am glad and thankful I found this blog as it confirms my beliefs and my core feeling that, even if governments/politicians in the west have, or trying to, replace men in women’s lives, they have utterly failed. They only succeeded in one thing; damaging the stable, loving and respectable families.
And that’s why in another post (maybe 50 shades of red, can’t remember, sorry) I was wondering about your thoughts around the male dominated societies/countries and whether you see that the undesirable female traits you refer to in your posts are still seen/ demonstrated there?! I think, but I am not sure, that these bad traits even if it is inbuilt in the female core it will, by time and by observing the culture around, be suppressed or redirected.
I also totally agree – (and I understand that you don’t care if I agree or not 😊) – with your eye opening post on good females are made and not born.
For sure I agree that men are superior, not only for what you explain above, but also because that’s why God created man first and gave him ALL the responsibilities but then gave him a woman to support (nurture) him and the offspring. Also, I believe that’s why when the serpent wanted to deceive mankind it did choose the woman to deceive and not the man!
I see the serpent these days as this non sense, family destructive feminism theory. May God have mercy on us all!
If you are what you write, some man, if not already, will be blessed to have you.
I have repeatedly said to my (male) friends, that life is only “hard” for a woman if she is one or more of; fat, ugly or consistently makes poor choices.
The parallels drawn between feminism and marxism are breath taking. Both begin with the lie of radical egalitarianism and segue into lopsided superiority of the chosen set!
“Men have never, and will never need women to take care of them, the reverse is untrue. Men took care of women for tens of thousands of years, this is the unwritten social contract, men provide and protect, women nurture – this is a natural balance that works just fine.”
I agree with most what you said in this article. Lot of aha moments, stuff I’ve known but written in a succinct way. However, how do you explain the beta’s and the pussy whipped men who always need a woman or are codependent on a woman to look after them?
I was getting mad reading the article about the fact that the whole of feminism is a lie.
I once asked a co worker at an old job what her taste in men was. She said, “two types”. So I said, “let me guess, the nice guy and the bad boy?” She said yes and that she wanted “both together, or a bipolar man, because the nice guys are too stable and boring and the bad boys are too exciting and lack stability”. As Rollo says, hypergamy is open.
I also realised males have a version of this. The male version is a “madonna” for a wife, and a “whore” for short term.
I wish I could share this article to the masses without getting the negative stigma and backlash it would receive by current mainstream Marxism on Facebook. The problem is that this truth is only acknowledged by those who wish to seek it out. Imagine if this underground thought was broadcast to the masses and enforced as the dominant opinion? We might actually have a functional family unit, not one in which the sons are hooked on adderall and the daughters on anti anxiety medication. My prediction is that there would also be an economic upswing as things balanced out.
Then again, can you blame women for wanting to optimize their sexual strategy? The way they go about it is dishonest and quite frankly morbid, as well as the catalyst for a variety of social and economic problems; however, each gender desires sexual utopia.
I suppose if this information was spread to the masses it would decrease the intrinsic value it gives me, so it is nice to have a leg up over others in the game. Thus I retract my primary statement in light of self improvement.
Great thought provoking article, thanks again, IM.
FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE IN
AN AGE OF FEMINIST MATRIARCHY
Women have been afflicted by nature with miseries of menstruation and childbirth. Men have no such naturally imposed burden, hence men are free to generate their own inner lights of joy and contentment. The most blissful life a woman can hope to live in this world is that of finding such a happy man, latching onto him and capturing his love so that she may bask and revel in his radiance of satisfaction.
Why are you approving lesbian and feminist comments? What is that? At least on your blog you can decide whose voice is going to be heard. West is absolutely f up. That is because they have forgone God. When you give up on God you lose healthy family.Healthy family means a mother staying at home and taking care of her kids and husband. Mother who is pretty for her husband not dressing herself up so that other men can look at her legs, derriere, so on.. ‘first’ world countries = ‘last’ world morals. letting some feminist and gay movement exist. They paraded last year in my country and it was the worst thing that could happen after communism.
IM, the reddit you pointed to has been deleted
I think he got too many requests and thus removed his account. I’ve updated the article to reflect this situation. Thanks for the heads up.
In the past I have known a small number of prostitutes in their early to late 20’s at a friend/personal level. In public they wave the feminist flag, are all for equality, are against or are not ready for marriage and are independent single women. Below the facade they sell their pretty young bodies and rely on money from men, some of them much older and cheating on their wives, all the while they bitch about men to their small inner circle of feminist friends who keep encouraging them to be prostitutes.
Small sample base I know but they typically come from broken families with what I gather to be narcissist fathers and the mother brought up the children. Poor life choices put them into positions where drugs/alcohol were abundant. Many have been raped and not from minding their own business at the library. It’s a real mess but playing the victim gets them nowhere. If anything they repeat the bad choices hoping for a different outcome to somehow prove to themselves that their choices are good. Low self esteem, depression, anxiety, reliance on drugs/alcohol to cope, more lies to cover their prostitute tracks, further encouragement by feminist friends and further reliance on the money (because they let their studies slide) just digs them deeper and deeper, further away from having any role in a healthy wholesome family unit.
Side note: I love the look on a womans face who has high respect for me when I tell her my number and I already know it’s much lower than hers. Oh the look of deep shame and regret when she knows I will never even date her!
This is the best summation of the Red Pill I’ve read.
One word I would choose differently is “Traditional”. When people hear traditional they think of their grandparents and 1950’s America. I would see the term “Classical” or something to better describe all of human societies for thousands of years of history.
The build environment in the 1950’s was not the historical norm. People lived in villages/towns/cities that had social networks for men, women, and children outside their front door in the form of walking mixed used communities. The suburbs and public housing ghettos are artificial creations from government policy. It was easier to be abused and feel trapped (men too) when living in an artificial, toxic environment; that continues to this day.
You say femininsm is based on infantile narcissism, and I say you are ignorant as to why feminism acts the way it does. Men are not benevolent creatures by nature of being men, many a time a man would abuse his power over the feminine, you hear of the extreme cases of acid burning in Islamic countries, cutting off a woman’s genitals in African countries to make them more manageable, and the wife burnings in India when the husband dies. In addition, you have the old philosophers straight up devaluing womanhood, philosophers who claim women have not honor, no souls, or are ugly and deformed compared to men and of little worth. There is also a trend of men belittling hobbies dominated by women, with all this derision throughout the ages coming from the people that are supposed to protect you, is it any wonder why feminism has taken power?
The dangers of men also show in the female sexual strategy, the war brides and hypergamy, the lust for men in power with Machiavellian traits, all point to a past of violence and women suffering under men and thus learning to adapt and seek traits that increase a woman’s chance of survival. I believe it’s not infantile narcissism that drives feminism, but a sense of self preservation that does not really on the whims of another person. Many women also want to seek purpose outside family, is it wrong to let them pursue it? Feminists realize there is a unique requirement of self-abnegation when it comes to femininity, men have the burden of performance but how they go about it is up to them to choose, that choice is more limited for women mostly to appease the masculine.
Such issues do exist – I won’t deny there is a dark side to those societies. But you just confirmed the whole ‘women blame nurture for everything’. This is totally what I have seen every woman do – blame men, blame it all on nurture and not nature. You’re saying and believing all this today only thanks to the pill and technology and easy medical care and a huge sense of shame for your nature.
Get this, nearly everything that set women free was invented by a man who cared for them… including your smartphone, 60 mins without which most people would get instant depression.
Just 200 years ago, survival was way more difficult. Hypergamy exists because for 99.99% of the human race, average life expectancy was 26 years and only women get pregnant. Of course, you’d think that’s only because of male violence, conveniently ignoring the wild animals and diseases…
Old philosophy just confirmed everything that’s happening today. Never has it been more relevant. Much of it must have been written on seeing how civilizations fell.
Today’s woman is far more privileged in every conceivable way, but then we see what they’ve become – their egos have never been bigger and they have never been less trustworthy and never less grateful.
And whenever this happens, civilization is in decline and in 2 generations more it’ll be clear.
Of course for this also, she’ll only blame men.. Lol…the envy of men….
And don’t you even get me started on the ‘whims of others’ — we all know how much of pressure on women comes from other women, especially the hate and jealousy. Women can hate and envy each other in a way that most men are incapable of and the biggest pressures come from other women, not men. I mean mother in laws and daughter in laws, and the man in between…
The modern girl has never been suffered more from infantile narcissism than today.
It’s just the ‘ol sexual principle at work even at the highest macroscopic levels – masculine societies die in bombs and bullets, feminine societies retard, decline locally and get taken over (sounds like hypergamy….). Just as men want to change the world, women want to feel the world is acting on her.
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I’m only touching on one point because I think I noticed something.
Is it possible some women are unhappy, despite being the sex that allows the human race to continue, because raising a child is inherently taking attention away from herself?
I see this is my older sister, who would only ever talk about her children in a sort of Münchhausen scenario; talking about what a /strain/ and a /struggle/ it is helping her sick children.
This is a great essay, and the response to the lesbian was just savage haha.
Three years passed since I swallowed the pill. I have never been better.
Now I’m going back to the theory to rethink things from an improved perspective.
Your words never dissapoint. You are one of the wisest writers I’ve found in the manosphere.
So I needed to thank you for enlightening us.
I’ll keep working hard, and doing my best to be a good father tomorrow and to contribute to mankind.